tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post1913687261442025172..comments2024-01-02T16:30:43.455+00:00Comments on Hog Day Afternoon: Shoot on sight, as long as he's the bad guyHogdayafternoonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06188146617570775741noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-33083122854450857732012-07-21T19:31:14.090+01:002012-07-21T19:31:14.090+01:00VERY well done, Hogday. Thanks for linking this a...VERY well done, Hogday. Thanks for linking this at <i>The Lexicans.</i>Buckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05319116022465066060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-76057564564241834082009-02-18T13:03:00.000+00:002009-02-18T13:03:00.000+00:00Thanks Vetnurse and B's in B for taking the troubl...Thanks Vetnurse and B's in B for taking the trouble to comment.Hogdayafternoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06188146617570775741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-11369721725617246772009-02-17T18:34:00.000+00:002009-02-17T18:34:00.000+00:00I agree with Blue Eyes. If you act on all the info...I agree with Blue Eyes. If you act on all the info available to you then it is not your fault/problem that it went wrong due to those up the pole. <BR/>It is great to be wise after the event. <BR/><BR/>If he had been the bomber the sad/stupid/sick/insane thing is that the police would STILL have been in trouble because they killed him.Vetnursehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03540531837941930258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-60265839015517475212009-02-17T18:29:00.000+00:002009-02-17T18:29:00.000+00:00Unbelievable !!Unbelievable !!Bitches In Bluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00507192694942217353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-49925804085401360242009-02-15T21:38:00.000+00:002009-02-15T21:38:00.000+00:00Const. Confused: Roger that. When the adrenaline k...Const. Confused: Roger that. When the adrenaline kicks in, we run on drills, s.o.p's and training. What we do (or did) may have taken seconds, yet the lawyers, et al, can pour over the scenario, stretch it all out, X-ray it, play with it, think about all the options including the abstract and fanciful,study the manual of guidance (if they could get their mitts on it), debate it with their highly intelligent peers etc etc and all in the comfort of their office/Inns of Court/wine bars - without being shot at or having their lives threatened. 6 months or more later and 3 seconds of madness is re-enacted in court, but drawn out into hours of scrutiny.<BR/><BR/>CPDCop: Spoken by someone who's been there, trained for it and knows the score.<BR/><BR/>ASNT: I could say so much more, but I'm keeping the powder dry until I check ut the O.S. Act ;) CT jobs can be so complicated. Nice take on bravery. Suggest a Read: `Special Forces Heroes` by Michael Ashcroft. Thanks for reading my postHogdayafternoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06188146617570775741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-27700720717748342802009-02-15T04:04:00.000+00:002009-02-15T04:04:00.000+00:00I will take scenario #3................ And OF COU...I will take scenario #3................ And OF COURSE i announced my office.........Don't we all?????? It only takes the amount of time to aim, sight and shoot in the same amount of time annoucning our office... case closed... OFFENDER SHOT AND KILLED......... Officer's and civilians go home in one piece.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-522461829674091302009-02-15T02:55:00.000+00:002009-02-15T02:55:00.000+00:00As above, I agree with you all the way. I'm going ...As above, I agree with you all the way. <BR/>I'm going to return to this when I actually have a computer, but the best way I can put it is this: We need more officers like those involved, not less.<BR/><BR/>I've heard the term "cold-blooded" used, and I have to admit that I completely accept that.<BR/><BR/>I think it was Neville Chamberlain who was once interviewed about bravery, as a former WW1 soldier.<BR/>He said there were two types of bravery - the first is 'hot' bravery, such as in times of battle.<BR/>He said that with 'hot' bravery, almost anyone can achieve it in the right circumstances. Adrenalin, peer pressure, no time to think... this is no less impressive, but achievable by many.<BR/><BR/>'Cold' bravery on the other hand, refers to people such as bomb defusal experts. People that KNOW the risk, that assess it, and still put themselves in harm's way.<BR/><BR/>These are the people that went after Menezes, and did their job to the best of their ability, depending on the intel weenies to get it right - just as we (as members of public) depend on the firearms officers to get it right and stop our friends and families getting killed.<BR/><BR/>To have the bravery to not only chase someone they believed to be a terrorist with a bomb, but to bring themselves to close quarters to the person, to lie on them and stay with them despite the threat of a large scale bomb... I hope that given the opportunity I would be that brave, but I have no doubt not all of us could.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Sorry if this is almost a post by itself.<BR/><BR/>Hogday, I will reply to your email soon!Area Trace No Searchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04397885435594392278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-81481501821891795942009-02-14T19:01:00.000+00:002009-02-14T19:01:00.000+00:00Outstanding. Allow the critics an aspect that they...Outstanding. Allow the critics an aspect that they will never face and see how they make decisions. No doubtit will end up with the subject being incapacitated by CS or Taser. No-one dead and a happy ending all round.<BR/><BR/>I have faced combat before in a previous existence and not wanting to sound dramatic but decisions are instant and based on intelligence, the situation and training. They have to be instant or you or someone else will die or be seriously injured.<BR/><BR/>Let the critics pursue an occupation where they are put in that situation and let's see how their theories go from there.<BR/><BR/>Once again, top post.Constable Confused.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08826293130119465865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-36063069088364555582009-02-14T17:06:00.000+00:002009-02-14T17:06:00.000+00:00What a wonderfully written post, thanks for sharin...What a wonderfully written post, thanks for sharing your insight..Dark Sidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01041020755058214988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-4930125075605903462009-02-14T14:39:00.000+00:002009-02-14T14:39:00.000+00:00Thanks Annette. I knew a little more about the fir...Thanks Annette. I knew a little more about the first and the same as everyone else about the second. To say I feel the pain of the principle officers is an understatement. I should probably try and sue the Met for post traumatic stress caused, after all, everyone else seems to ;)Hogdayafternoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06188146617570775741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-26714657081255687962009-02-14T14:25:00.000+00:002009-02-14T14:25:00.000+00:00Absolute brilliant piece of writing.Absolute brilliant piece of writing.Annettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17502937949422760649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-80154833522677079192009-02-14T14:08:00.000+00:002009-02-14T14:08:00.000+00:00Blue Eyes, quite right! You were so quick there, a...Blue Eyes, quite right! You were so quick there, as I was still doing a final edit to the final para, but I'll leave your comment up. Teach me to hit `post` rather than `review`.Hogdayafternoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06188146617570775741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-74379153351241587292009-02-14T13:34:00.000+00:002009-02-14T13:34:00.000+00:00How can anyone possibly hold them individually res...<I>How can anyone possibly hold them individually responsible</I><BR/><BR/>Does anyone with half a brain? The whole thing was utterly tragic, but given the "information" the officers in the station actually had, they did the right thing. It all went wrong much higher up the chain.Old BEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06974090439936326476noreply@blogger.com