tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post336459595331791992..comments2024-01-02T16:30:43.455+00:00Comments on Hog Day Afternoon: Drills and automatic pilotsHogdayafternoonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06188146617570775741noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-9320469314036778472010-02-11T11:08:04.475+00:002010-02-11T11:08:04.475+00:00Blue:
I understand that defibs actually IN the swi...Blue:<br />I understand that defibs actually IN the swimming pool is how the Chinese olympic swimmers are trainedHogdayafternoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06188146617570775741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-50462656183327943002010-02-11T10:45:40.744+00:002010-02-11T10:45:40.744+00:00A de-fib next to a swimming pool? You might get a...A de-fib next to a swimming pool? You might get a new hairstyle if you use that!!Old BEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06974090439936326476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-67942301580771253272010-02-10T16:02:49.403+00:002010-02-10T16:02:49.403+00:00You'll read about my de-fibbing in a future in...You'll read about my de-fibbing in a future instalment, i'm sure. As Area said, nerd-proof. In fact, at our local pools they have decided that they would remove the sign on the box that said, `only to be used by trained personnel` as it might cost a life! There's bottle in this day and age, n`est pas?Hogdayafternoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06188146617570775741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-82560470862349501582010-02-10T13:46:49.796+00:002010-02-10T13:46:49.796+00:00I have seen that video it is awesome.I have seen that video it is awesome.Old BEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06974090439936326476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-78472179691209691702010-02-10T11:23:30.008+00:002010-02-10T11:23:30.008+00:00Sadly, I'm not joking about my 100% failure r...Sadly, I'm not joking about my 100% failure rate, every real attempt at CPR has resulted eventually in death.<br /><br />However, this is expected - it's something they don't show you on Casualty or The Bill.<br /><br />I'm actually relatively well off in first aid and initial lifesaving, as the Met has paid for me to do certain extra training courses on it, as well as our standard life support training.<br /><br />Defib is brilliant, has a much higher success rate and is pretty much Policeman Proof.<br /><br />Hopefully they'll show you some videos about it - there's a great one of a guy pulled out of the water by lifeguards, and after unsuccessful CPR and then numerous defib, he pings back to life and wakes up conscious.<br /><br />As I said, a great piece of kit. We're not allowed to have them in our cars though...Area Trace No Searchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04397885435594392278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-90658312979185338372010-02-10T03:47:45.551+00:002010-02-10T03:47:45.551+00:00I seem to remember, from those now hazy days of ru...I seem to remember, from those now hazy days of rugby league (then a winter game), that I recovered from all kinds of injury at the sight of the trainer running on having just cracked the ice of the sponge bucket. Knowing this was about to be thrust down your nether regions as cure was cure indeed!<br />Maybe we should return to low-tech?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-82523158270113234242010-02-09T10:22:24.220+00:002010-02-09T10:22:24.220+00:00My defibbing training starts on Friday, unlike pri...My defibbing training starts on Friday, unlike prisoner Desai, who I suspect will never be fully de-fibbed.Hogdayafternoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06188146617570775741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-87694111711821362782010-02-09T09:38:45.019+00:002010-02-09T09:38:45.019+00:00I do realise that Area is "joking", but ...I do realise that Area is "joking", but the thing is, the chest compressions and breathing aren't supposed to "revive", in fact it's virtually impossible for them to do so. You can't fix someone's heart problem by squeezing it.<br /><br />The point is to keep a bare minimum of oxygen going to the brain while you wait for the defibrillator. Even with the defib there is only a tiny chance of success.Old BEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06974090439936326476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-66188015147618430572010-02-09T08:24:29.052+00:002010-02-09T08:24:29.052+00:00Area and PG: How true. The only thing remotely clo...Area and PG: How true. The only thing remotely close to a CPR `success` for me (apart from the subject of my post who sadly died anyway) was a totally wasted, hopelessly addicted druggie who I found in a bush in St James's Park, having collapsed after choking on his own puke. I punched him between the shoulder blades a few times and he spluttered up more puke then started breathing. An MOP came up and accused me of assaulting him. I have, however, worked under a few senior officers who, if they flaked out across their desks in front of me, I would be tempted to walk into town to find a t/k to phone for the ambulance.Hogdayafternoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06188146617570775741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-80807718339013370582010-02-08T19:35:36.559+00:002010-02-08T19:35:36.559+00:00Hd,
Please include ATNS on the list of people you ...Hd,<br />Please include ATNS on the list of people you don't ever want to have show up when you're laid-low. LOL at the 100 % failure rate humor!anonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03703233313854600531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-58148075623865325852010-02-08T19:18:10.252+00:002010-02-08T19:18:10.252+00:00I'm strangely proud in a "bloody-minded-I...I'm strangely proud in a "bloody-minded-I'm-a-copper-and-need-a-sense-of-humour-transplant" way, that I've had a 100% failure rate with all my CPR attempts.<br /><br />I suppose it means that I was right about there being no pulse...Area Trace No Searchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04397885435594392278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-27076324319455285232010-02-08T13:51:52.326+00:002010-02-08T13:51:52.326+00:00SC: Even when you've no idea, look as though y...SC: Even when you've no idea, look as though you have :) As for blood and guts - its `orrible and you've got to be weird if it doesn't get to you in some small way.<br /><br />CI-RD: Good job we never expect thanks. If I'd wanted to be loved I'd have joined the fire service ;) Even then they get things chucked at them sometimes - WTF?<br /><br />Technogran: Hello again! Nice to see you. I didn't make a habit of this sort of thing. Maybe a dozen tops, in 30 years. Lots of bandages used though!<br /><br />SOC: Agreed. At least in the cities we didn't have to wait too long. I loved the sight of an arriving Ambo.<br /><br />Adrian: I'm unaware of ever doing CPR on a Marxist but it may well have happened.<br /><br />PG: It's not something I look forward too either. At least in this story there was no blood, guts and snot to get in the way, ugh!<br /><br />Archytas: Greetings. I had an exact similar experience with a proby/St John's ambo. I rather cruelly used to tell my tac team that if I was ever shot in the line of duty and they saw him coming towards me with his kit, they should remove my gun from its holster and finish me off. I've had much better experiences of the great St Johns guys since.<br /><br />打麻將 : I looked in and appear to have got some sort of oriental sex site. If that was you, thanks for looking in and the offer, but I've already got some :)Hogdayafternoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06188146617570775741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-33597869821917552322010-02-08T09:37:04.456+00:002010-02-08T09:37:04.456+00:00"I was nauseous just at the descriptions of t..."I was nauseous just at the descriptions of the wounds we might treat"<br /><br />During our initial "life support" training the trainer was taking us through how we might deal with a stab wound which had caused someone's intestines to fall out. I'm afraid I have rather a vivid imagination and started to feel quite unwell. The trainer noticed and I could tell he was thinking "not sure how well this bloke is going to handle it on the streets!"...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-58083614964137497372010-02-08T08:00:46.295+00:002010-02-08T08:00:46.295+00:00The winner of the first aid prize at Bruche was an...The winner of the first aid prize at Bruche was an ex-cadet, posted to the same station as me. I played cricket and missed the lessons, 'strangely' coming in second in the exam having never seen a triangular bandage.<br />One of our first jobs together was at a bad RTA. I tuned to hand him the first aid kit (empty as it turned out)and to say he might do more with it. He had fainted.<br />You're right more MOPs should put in a decent word of thanks, and a few did in my case. I have over some good work too.<br />Sadly, my letter to our current farce Chief on allcoppedout is rarely pleasant. There is a downside that needs revealing too.<br />I hated drills, but owe my life to them. My FT was 35 rounds with a .38 and I didn't get any more until I moved on to Guildford in a later job. It was only then I realised just how much danger I and the public had been put in. No return to the old days in this area I hope.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16264438225569974063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-26972992321687910482010-02-08T06:52:18.809+00:002010-02-08T06:52:18.809+00:00Forgive me, I hate hate hated first aid training. ...Forgive me, I hate hate hated first aid training. I always told my crew that the first guy to get hurt would get beat up by a girl. Me.<br />I was nauseous just at the descriptions of the wounds we might treat. <br /><br />I'm glad there's people out there who can do it, I've ridden in the big white ambulance my self once, but I'm not who you'd hope to have around in the event of a life threatening injury. I mean I'd try, and I've done all right when I had to, but damn, I didn't like it at all! <br /><br />Nice work on your part though, and I'm glad you got the thanks you deserved.anonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03703233313854600531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-48693641362729975542010-02-08T04:37:22.086+00:002010-02-08T04:37:22.086+00:00Here is why things are getting worse, it's all...Here is why things are getting worse, it's all by design.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj_UEnUkXSw" rel="nofollow">Cultural Marxism</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.henrymakow.com/yuri_bezmenov_-too_important_t.html" rel="nofollow">Subversion</a><br /><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/yfx4b65" rel="nofollow">More here</a><br /><br /><br />Former senior Policy advisor to Margaret Thacher, <br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/yblpatg" rel="nofollow">Lord Monckton calls for arrests Pt 1 of 5</a>Adehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13003263931996536231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-90175485342023594232010-02-07T14:30:53.603+00:002010-02-07T14:30:53.603+00:00That's why I love Ambo's - I'm not set...That's why I love Ambo's - I'm not set up for what you did .... you're right about drills thoughStressed Out Cophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09822426269877730126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-50708315416603127442010-02-07T06:13:39.004+00:002010-02-07T06:13:39.004+00:00What a wonderful story. I should imagine that once...What a wonderful story. I should imagine that once you are trained then 'instict' kicks in when someone stops breathing. You probably don't even think about it until after.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-87830619453101178742010-02-06T19:22:10.211+00:002010-02-06T19:22:10.211+00:00Wow, Good job!
about 30 years ago, the departmen...Wow, Good job! <br />about 30 years ago, the department I used to work for was trying to have cops do it all. We were firemen, ambulance drivers and dog catchers. So, we responded to all emergency calls. <br />In my first year as a rookie copper, I did CPR 12 times. Too bad in those days we did not yet have "911 emergency" systems...so when grandma keeled over and from a heart attack, the citizens had to look in the phone book to figure out what phone number to dial up. Usually, by the time we got called, it was too late--- so I breathed into a lot of dead folks. <br /><br />A few times, we did save em'....but it wasn't enough. I never ever had anybody say "thank you for trying." <br />Later, I went to EMT training and became a CPR instructor. But the entire time I was certified with all the good training-- I never had to do CPR one time. <br /><br />After I let the certificates expire, I again had to do CPR--- but in the last few years, the victims were too far gone to save. <br />Still, I'd always try. <br /><br />And I've seen not only cops, but a few firemen/women freeze and not know what to do. Usually with gun shot victims.CI-Roller Dudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10850472230525879415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434417594974826136.post-68241632954978887042010-02-06T14:19:30.518+00:002010-02-06T14:19:30.518+00:00"If you told me that I was going to face the ..."If you told me that I was going to face the same situation tomorrow, I would be crapping myself with worry, but when it happens, it usually comes under your radar and lands in your lap and its only then you hope the drills kick in. But thankfully I didn't have to hope because I had been trained and sufficiently re-drilled."<br /><br />So true. There are various situations which I have been really apprehensive about facing for the first time, but each time when it has finally "happened" I have managed to deal with it adequately. I always thought that "the training kicks in" was a cliche but it's absolutely true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com