It seems like a very long time ago from where I am sitting, and very much In The Past. But then I am not sure I would feel so relieved about that if I felt that I had been wronged.
Please let us not get ourselves into that kind of pickle again.
I suspect todays `Report` will be the most expensive written apology in history. Perhaps an earlier one, plus the sum total divided up between the families, would have assuaged their loss a little better. They could have built sports/community centres or whatever in memorium, rather than line the pockets of lawyers. Still, I suppose HMG couldn't have the terrorists getting their hands on the loot.
CI RD: How DID the US compensate the Ohio Four and how long did it take? I just can't remember.
Some of us just remember such stuff as a policewoman burning to death as our arms were scorched so badly trying to get her out of the torched car we were pensioned out on bad pensions for a series of skin grafts (not me, I copped elsewhere). My point is we are still doing this stuff. Stockwell is an example and I suspect Iraq - Afghanistan is another - we have almost no direct reporting.
Hogday, I think Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young made enough money on the song they sang to make up for any loss. The shooting was actually done by the Ohio Army National Guard-- which was called in by the state for that "problem." The soldiers were poorly trained (like no training). That's one of the incidents I use to train our California Army National Guard soldiers these days. Better training and better troops.
In those days, not much money was given out to grieving familes.
You got the report right Hoggie. Thinking on what Roller-Dude says on training, I got 35 rounds with a .38 before being unleashed on an unsuspecting public. I can't remember being properly trained on anything except the teleprinter (completing the course on the day it was shifted out of our nick). I was in enough panic situations to know BS could just have been the same, but there were people on both sides lurking about who wanted hostilities for their own purposes. The report doesn't satisfy me on cock up rather than conspiracy.
Allcopped/Roller: You grasped my point. People are looking back with the benefit of 38 years experience of modern counter-insurgency, kit, tactics and a plethora of other stuff we don't read about and are judging those who paved the way with none of the aforementioned. Semper Fi`.
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It seems like a very long time ago from where I am sitting, and very much In The Past. But then I am not sure I would feel so relieved about that if I felt that I had been wronged.
Please let us not get ourselves into that kind of pickle again.
Nothing like a few .30 Cal rounds to break up a bunch of hippies rioting...
I suspect todays `Report` will be the most expensive written apology in history. Perhaps an earlier one, plus the sum total divided up between the families, would have assuaged their loss a little better. They could have built sports/community centres or whatever in memorium, rather than line the pockets of lawyers. Still, I suppose HMG couldn't have the terrorists getting their hands on the loot.
CI RD: How DID the US compensate the Ohio Four and how long did it take? I just can't remember.
"I suspect todays `Report` will be the most expensive written apology in history."
Ooooh, now that's just setting them a challenge... ;)
Some of us just remember such stuff as a policewoman burning to death as our arms were scorched so badly trying to get her out of the torched car we were pensioned out on bad pensions for a series of skin grafts (not me, I copped elsewhere).
My point is we are still doing this stuff. Stockwell is an example and I suspect Iraq - Afghanistan is another - we have almost no direct reporting.
Hogday,
I think Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young made enough money on the song they sang to make up for any loss.
The shooting was actually done by the Ohio Army National Guard-- which was called in by the state for that "problem."
The soldiers were poorly trained (like no training).
That's one of the incidents I use to train our California Army National Guard soldiers these days. Better training and better troops.
In those days, not much money was given out to grieving familes.
You got the report right Hoggie. Thinking on what Roller-Dude says on training, I got 35 rounds with a .38 before being unleashed on an unsuspecting public. I can't remember being properly trained on anything except the teleprinter (completing the course on the day it was shifted out of our nick).
I was in enough panic situations to know BS could just have been the same, but there were people on both sides lurking about who wanted hostilities for their own purposes. The report doesn't satisfy me on cock up rather than conspiracy.
Allcopped/Roller: You grasped my point. People are looking back with the benefit of 38 years experience of modern counter-insurgency, kit, tactics and a plethora of other stuff we don't read about and are judging those who paved the way with none of the aforementioned. Semper Fi`.
Did I ever tell you how my parents met at an anti-war rally?
DC: No! Were they National Guards, demonstrators or on either side of the skirmish line? Do tell!!
They were "flower children" protesting the war!
Oh irony, how I love thee.
"Oh De Campo, where'st thy Sting(er)?"
NOTHING clears a bunch of unwashed hippys like a bayonet charge.
Ahhh, THOSE were the days.
Sorry, my slip, I meant BATTON charge, of COURSE.
FT: There's many a slip of the tongue between "Charge" and "Halt" ;)
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